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In ‘The Coming Of The American Behemoth’ Fascism Hits Close To Home

Many Americans know fascism as an authoritarian ideology which blossomed in early 20th century Europe — first with Italian dictator Benito Mussolini and later with Adolf Hitler and the rise of Nazi Germany. But historian Michael Joseph Roberto argues that while Mussolini and Hitler were capturing the world’s attention, a type of fascist ideology was also taking hold in the United States, although the system looked different.

Roberto says monopoly-finance capitalism and the dominance of big business over personal liberties is America’s own mutation of fascism. He articulates this argument in the book “The Coming of the American Behemoth: The Origins of Fascism in the United States, 1920–1940” (NYU Press/2018). Michael Joseph Roberto is a former professor of contemporary world history at North Carolina A&T State University, an activist and a former journalist.

Host Frank Stasio speaks with Michael Joseph Roberto about his new book, 'The Coming of the American Behemoth: The Origins of Fascism in the United States.'

Author Michael Joseph Roberto argues capitalism forms the basis for America's own mutation of fascism.
Credit Courtesy Michael Joseph Roberto
Author Michael Joseph Roberto argues capitalism forms the basis for America's own mutation of fascism.

He joins host Frank Stasio to review a history of the fascist ideology and describe how he sees fascism manifesting in America today.

Roberto will present his book at McIntyre’s Books in Pittsboro on Saturday, Feb. 2 at 2 p.m., at Firestorm Books & Coffee in Asheville on Saturday, Feb. 9, and at Flyleaf Books in Chapel Hill on Monday, March 11.

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Longtime NPR correspondent Frank Stasio was named permanent host of The State of Things in June 2006. A native of Buffalo, Frank has been in radio since the age of 19. He began his public radio career at WOI in Ames, Iowa, where he was a magazine show anchor and the station's News Director.
Laura Pellicer is a producer with The State of Things (hyperlink), a show that explores North Carolina through conversation. Laura was born and raised in Montreal, Quebec, a city she considers arrestingly beautiful, if not a little dysfunctional. She worked as a researcher for CBC Montreal and also contributed to their programming as an investigative journalist, social media reporter, and special projects planner. Her work has been nominated for two Canadian RTDNA Awards. Laura loves looking into how cities work, pursuing stories about indigenous rights, and finding fresh voices to share with listeners. Laura is enamored with her new home in North Carolina—notably the lush forests, and the waves where she plans on moonlighting as a mediocre surfer.