Darlene Hawes lost her health insurance about a year after her husband died in 2012.
Hawes, 55, is from Charlotte, N.C. She ended up going without insurance for a few years, but in 2015 she bought coverage on HealthCare.gov, the Affordable Care Act marketplace, with the help of a big subsidy.
"I was born with heart trouble and I also had, in 2003, open-heart surgery," she says. "I had breast-cancer surgery. I have a lot of medical conditions, so I needed insurance badly."
After the results of the 2016 election came in, she was scared she'd lose her insurance immediately. For years, Republicans have vowed to scrap the health care law. The new Congress is already working on a plan to undo the Affordable Care Act. But they have not settled on how to replace the health care structure that Obamacare set up.
Hawes is one of about 550,000 North Carolinians who relies on the Obamacare marketplace for health insurance. She was relieved after she talked with an enrollment specialist last month who told her she can renew her policy for 2017.
"And I'm like, 'Oh my Lord, did she just say that?' " Hawes asks with a laugh. "It's just like a whole load of burdens just fell off of my back because all the years I haven't been covered since my husband passed away — I don't want to be sad again. I was very sad."
Most health care researchers and policy analysts agree not much is likely to change in 2017.
"Even the Republican Congress in one of their most recent bills to repeal it, they put in a two-year transition period, so that the premium subsidies and the other provisions of the law that are fundamental wouldn't be repealed for a couple of years," says Sabrina Corlette, a research professor at Georgetown University's.
Some Republican leaders say repeal should happen immediately with a transition period to come up with a replacement.
Still, the CEO of HealthCare.gov, Kevin Counihan, says he can't guarantee coverage will remain. "It's not my place to promise anything about a new administration," he says. "But what I can tell you is not only are we moving forward, but our enrollment is higher than expected."
At the end of 2016, enrollment for 2017 plans spiked and as of the end of December, North Carolina has the third-highest enrollment for 2017 plans among states using HealthCare.gov.
Julieanne Taylor with Legal Services of Southern Piedmont is helping people sign up. She says about a third of them have asked about the election.
"But generally when we're calling, people are really excited to have their appointment and come in and look at the plans for 2017," she says. "I think they're mostly interested in how much they're going to be paying."
In some ways, North Carolina is in tough shape. Premiums are going up and insurance companies have dropped out, leaving Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina as the only insurer in 95 percent of the state.
Blue Cross actuary Brian Tajlili says it's simply an expensive market that has older, sicker people who cost more to cover.
"There is continuing demand for services and continuing high utilization within this block of business," he says.
What he calls "this block of business" means the customers who buy insurance on the exchange. It's a small slice of the overall health insurance market, because most people are covered through work or Medicare. The overwhelming majority of consumers who buy coverage on the exchange get federal subsidies that greatly reduce what they pay.
Still, it's been a turbulent market for consumers and insurers. Over the past two years, Blue Cross has lost $400 million in North Carolina on that part of its business.
Amid the post-election uncertainty, Tajlili says Blue Cross is committed to offering plans in 2017.
"2017 will be another pivotal year for us as we look at the individual market," he says.
One of Blue Cross' new customers will be Sara Kelly Jones, 46, who works at Letty's restaurant in Charlotte, N.C. She recognizes Obamacare isn't perfect. But before the law, health insurance was a financial vise that kept tightening on her.
"I could not afford it at all," she says. "Every year it was going up $100 to $120, $150 a month. It got to the point where it was going to be at least $200 more a month than my mortgage."
But under Obamacare, Jones qualifies for a subsidy. Her premium will go up with Blue Cross, but she says she can afford it with that help.
Jones says the political debate over the law ignores people like her.
"I'm terrified," she says. She's worried about the Republican Congress' pledge to scrap and replace Obamacare without presenting a detailed proposal. "If there had been any plan outlined that wasn't just some vague, 'We're going to replace it with something awesome,' " she says she'd rest easier. "They have no plan! What on Earth are you going to do with all these people, myself included, that are counting on this?"
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As Republicans in Congress get to work on their pledge to repeal Obamacare, people are continuing to use the program's insurance exchange to renew or buy policies and a lot of them are nervous. Michael Tomsic of WFAE reports from North Carolina.
MICHAEL TOMSIC, BYLINE: Darlene Hawes lost insurance about a year after her husband died in 2012.
DARLENE HAWES: I was born with heart trouble. And I also had in 2003 open heart surgery, and I had breast cancer surgery so I needed insurance badly.
TOMSIC: She's now 55 and last year bought insurance on the Obamacare exchange with help from a big subsidy. Then the election happened, and she was scared she'd lose it immediately. But an enrollment specialist told her she could still renew with the subsidy for 2017.
HAWES: And I'm like, oh, my lord, did she just say that? (Laughter). It's just like a whole load of burdens just fell off my back because all the years that I haven't been covered since my husband passed away. I don't want to be sad again, you know? I was very sad.
TOMSIC: About 550,000 North Carolinians rely on the Obamacare exchange or marketplace for health insurance. Republicans have vowed for years to junk that and the rest of the law, and Donald Trump campaigned on it. But not much is likely to change in 2017. Republican leaders are trying to repeal it immediately, but also assure the public there will be a smooth transition. Still, the CEO of the exchanges, Kevin Counihan, says he can't promise that coverage will remain through 2017.
KEVIN COUNIHAN: It's not my place to promise anything about a new administration, but what I can tell you is that not only are we moving forward, but our enrollment is higher than expected.
TOMSIC: Indeed, enrollment surged at the end of 2016. And North Carolina has the third-highest enrollment so far among states using healthcare.gov. In some ways, North Carolina is in tough shape. Premiums are up, and Blue Cross Blue Shield is the only insurance company in 95 percent of the state. Blue Cross actuary Brian Tajlili says people who signed up for coverage tend to be older and sicker, and for that reason use more medical care.
BRIAN TAJLILI: There is continuing demand for services and continuing high utilization within this block of business.
TOMSIC: By this block of business, he means the small slice of the overall health insurance market that Obamacare covers. Most people get insurance through work or Medicare. And for those half a million people on the exchange, about 90 percent get federal subsidies that greatly reduce what they pay. Subsidies that are now on the chopping block, but Tajlili says Blue Cross is committed to offering plans through the year.
TAJLILI: 2017 will be another pivotal year for us as we look at the individual market.
TOMSIC: One of Blue Cross' new customers will be Sara Kelly Jones. Through the door to the back patio out Letty's restaurant in Charlotte, where Jones works, she says Obamacare isn't perfect, but before the law health insurance was a financial vice that kept tightening.
SARA KELLY JONES: It was going up $100 to $120, $150 a month. It got to the point where it was going to be at least $200 more a month than my mortgage.
TOMSIC: But under Obamacare, Jones qualifies for a subsidy. Her premium is up this year, but she can still afford it with that help. Jones says the political debate ignores people like her.
JONES: I'm terrified. If there had been any plan outlined that wasn't just some vague, we're going to replace it with something awesome, but they have no plan. What on earth are you going to do with all these people, myself included, that are counting on this?
TOMSIC: About 20 million people got insurance through Obamacare. Republicans haven't settled yet on a plan to replace it. For NPR News, I'm Michael Tomsic in Charlotte.
CORNISH: This story is part of a partnership with Kaiser Health News. Tomorrow, we talk to a woman who hopes Trump will make health insurance less expensive.
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